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Weird Logic's avatar

I’m always curious about what motivates people to support Palestine, especially as someone who supports the state of Israel. My response here is driven by genuine curiosity. I want to understand perspectives different from my own, so I’m setting aside any personal biases to focus on facts. Ultimately, I’m interested in gathering truths that I might not yet have considered because I believe it’s the only way to have a meaningful dialogue.

From what I’ve observed, a lot of the division on this issue seems to stem from differing interpretations of historical events—particularly around who initiated the conflict during the Nakba. That moment seems to be a focal point for many when determining who holds more responsibility for the current situation.

You also mentioned framing Zionism as an identity politics ideology, which I find thought-provoking. Personally, I’ve always seen Israel as a nation rooted in Western values, somewhat like a smaller United States. Its governance, in my view, reflects principles like democracy, individual freedoms, and a commitment to progress. These values generally align more closely with global norms and create a foundation for collaboration with the broader international community.

But this leads to a critical question: If we were to flip the script and replace Israel with a Palestinian state, or even reach a peace agreement, would the result be respected by all parties involved? Would nations like Iran, which actively oppose the West, cease their hostilities? Would extremist groups committed to human rights violations suddenly change their approach? I can’t help but wonder if these deeper geopolitical and ideological conflicts make lasting peace impossible without a profound cultural shift.

For me, this conflict goes beyond being a simple matter of Jews versus Islamists. It feels more like a clash between irreconcilable cultural values—between systems that prioritize freedom, diversity, and individual rights and those that might not share those same principles. The question I wrestle with is whether such a fundamental difference in worldviews can ever truly be bridged.

On a broader note, I also share your concerns about the way dialogue has become so polarized. I agree that the anti-woke movement, in trying to combat certain ideologies, has often become its own echo chamber. The tribalism and culture of cancellations on both sides have made meaningful conversations almost impossible. It’s disheartening because we’ve lost the ability to coexist on a spectrum of beliefs. Instead, it feels like everyone is just vying for power and influence, doubling down on their side rather than listening and learning from others.

In the end, I wish there were more room for nuance and honest exploration of ideas without fear of judgment or retribution. Whether it’s about Israel and Palestine, identity politics, or broader cultural issues, the inability to have open conversations seems like one of the biggest barriers to progress.

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Pear Joseph's avatar

Great essay Jake! I’m a fan of several of the people you mentioned but haven’t followed them closely enough to have noticed their hypocrisy when it comes to this issue. (It is outrageous that Bari Weiss almost cost you your job.😡)

I admire you for always remaining truly consistent with your principles.

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