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Nikia Bella's avatar

For Salome: they may have not been able to articulate it, but I will:

When emotions are high, of course people are gonna start yapping away about their dislike over our future president, but I understand why.

While your heart may be in a good place, wanting us to only allow in “good” immigrants, the candidate you picked will not do it your way.

Too much grace has been given to someone who has shown time and time again that they have very little compassion in their body and their campaign was all about them and how much they wanted to be the hero. On paper (and in comics) that sounds noble, it sounds wholesome, but when you keep up with the appearances of our future president and listen to the words he says …does it not tell you he won’t do things the right way? He will hurt the “good” immigrants and our economy if his plans go through as he’d like.

The average person has difficulty putting emotions aside, especially with family, so I’ll be their voice. You voted on the immigrant issue, but maybe they see all the other people/issues that will be affected all because of the immigration issue being blown up bigger than it ever has for a campaign ploy.

This is the most I’ve ever heard about immigration in my life. I’d like to know who it is truly affecting, genuinely. Is it as big as they claim? Nobody in my life/state has complained about any personal issues. Although anecdotal, I need people to think about how much of an issue certain things are. We are not immune to being manipulated even if we know about the manipulation.

To add: I know there are good people who voted for him. I know them personally and I’ve seen them be human, so I don’t think all Trump voters are bad but ..I do think a lot have been misled and their fear was used against them. We all want better for the USA, I do love it here, it’s all I’ve known …but we can do so much better.

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Salomé Sibonex's avatar

I think people like yourself are relying far too heavily on the "vibes" and "persona" you're intuiting from candidates you've never met instead of focusing on the reality of what policies they will enact, such as Harris proposing price controls to "lower grocery prices"—an economically illiterate policy that causes food shortages. That's far more important to me than whether I personally like a candidate I don't even know.

I see no compassion in the hollow PR displays from the current administration and its successor, Harris, who've funneled billions of tax payers' money to foreign countries (and themselves) while only creating a worse economic situation for citizens. But I do remain surprised at how much more people care about whether a candidate is likable and says the right things on camera.

You're correct that we can do so much better—hence why people like myself didn't vote for a continuation of the same administration.

I recommend not trying to be the voice of other people when you haven't understood the voice of the person you're arguing against. I never said I voted on the immigrant issue nor did I give my stance on it. I merely rebutted the ignorant argument that any person concerned with immigration is driven by racism.

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Nikia Bella's avatar

I feel I personally encapsulated a lot of people’s emotions well. Do you in turn see compassion from the administration you voted for? You voted based on the policies you didn’t like from Harris, but you were confident enough to vote for someone that also did not have the best plans economically?

It seems everyone just has fatigue for democrats and voted republican because they didn’t want to keep repeating the same mistakes. People voted for Trump based on vibes as well. This whole election has been vibes based. We should have some couth when voting, I’d rather not have a president that other countries laugh at. If his policies worked the first time then I’d have to just take the laughing on the chin, but I don’t recall things getting better. I recall the working class not getting the tax refunds they usually get.

I can be the voice for others because I see what others get emotional about and why they rebuttal regardless of the issue talked about. There are trigger words that people are not aware of, and Trump/immigrants is one of them.

As you think I cannot be the voice for others, you cannot say “people like me” have relied on vibes and persona. I was very upset this whole campaign because everything was handled so poorly on both sides. And I’ll say more poorly on the republicans side but people like bluntness (that’s vibes based).

My issue is that while you voted on “policies” you ignored other policies that hurt more Americans than it helps. Your issue and dislike for democrats mistakes lead you to ignoring the rest of the policies and plans on Trump’s end. You saw something you liked and ignored everything else. I guess people aren’t forced to care about their neighbors, but that is something I care about and I fully understand why people may not be open to certain discussions.

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