This is very hard to listen to because of Briahna Joy Gray. Her debating skills are non existent she completely derailed any useful debate. She's just dreadful and frankly a bully. Would be great to redo this with an equal to Jake as his partner so we can actually hear a rational and informative debate.
This is very hard to listen to because of Briahna Joy Gray. Her debating skills are non existent she completely derailed any useful debate. She's just dreadful and frankly a bully. Would be great to redo this with an equal to Jake as his partner so we can actually hear a rational and informative debate.
Haha I know what you mean, and thanks for listening Jane!
I worry we're a bit inclined toward bias against Briahna considering her usual politics and her disagreeable nature, so I try to give the benefit of the doubt. Honestly I think Eli Lake has been getting away with nasty behavior because he says what his side wants to hear. I found him goading Briahna and intentionally laughing loudly while the opposing side spoke very immature. In my opinion this debate needed far more structured moderation to be more informative!
Interestingly I have no idea who Briahna is, I'm sure I've come across her but I don't know anything about her. My impression was purely on her during the debate but yes agree the behavior generally was not good and the debate became quite unhinged. No doubt there was much lost without the body language and posturing, but agree laughing over others because you disagree is some of the worst behavior. It's almost impossible to find a balanced civil debate on this topic, some of us actually want to learn and develop our own position based on information not just passion.
Haha yeah her politics only make her more dislikable if you're Right-leaning! I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt as I've never much liked her style of argumentation and think I'm biased against her, but I agree she did NOT make Jake's role any easier.
And yeah, you've described why I don't actually enjoy most debates. It's so hard to get clarity and depth on an issue when everyone is basically just fighting! We'll be releasing a video response to this debate once the video is released and that will add some of the nuance that got lost in the heat.
Ha, thanks Jane! I don’t want to cast any shade towards Briahna, who I think did a good job against a tough crowd, but we do come from very different perspectives on this topic, her being a progressive and me a libertarian. I intend to do more debates/conversations in the near future and look forward to continuing to share my perspective.
This is very hard to listen to because of Briahna Joy Gray. Her debating skills are non existent she completely derailed any useful debate. She's just dreadful and frankly a bully. Would be great to redo this with an equal to Jake as his partner so we can actually hear a rational and informative debate.
Haha I know what you mean, and thanks for listening Jane!
I worry we're a bit inclined toward bias against Briahna considering her usual politics and her disagreeable nature, so I try to give the benefit of the doubt. Honestly I think Eli Lake has been getting away with nasty behavior because he says what his side wants to hear. I found him goading Briahna and intentionally laughing loudly while the opposing side spoke very immature. In my opinion this debate needed far more structured moderation to be more informative!
Interestingly I have no idea who Briahna is, I'm sure I've come across her but I don't know anything about her. My impression was purely on her during the debate but yes agree the behavior generally was not good and the debate became quite unhinged. No doubt there was much lost without the body language and posturing, but agree laughing over others because you disagree is some of the worst behavior. It's almost impossible to find a balanced civil debate on this topic, some of us actually want to learn and develop our own position based on information not just passion.
Haha yeah her politics only make her more dislikable if you're Right-leaning! I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt as I've never much liked her style of argumentation and think I'm biased against her, but I agree she did NOT make Jake's role any easier.
And yeah, you've described why I don't actually enjoy most debates. It's so hard to get clarity and depth on an issue when everyone is basically just fighting! We'll be releasing a video response to this debate once the video is released and that will add some of the nuance that got lost in the heat.
Ha, thanks Jane! I don’t want to cast any shade towards Briahna, who I think did a good job against a tough crowd, but we do come from very different perspectives on this topic, her being a progressive and me a libertarian. I intend to do more debates/conversations in the near future and look forward to continuing to share my perspective.